Thieves' Hideout

Required Item: None

Recommended Items: Hammer, Bow, Bombs, Tornado Rod

General Knowledge

  • Pressing L leaves the Thief Girl where she is standing.
  • Now that the sand rod can be skipped, Thieves' Hideout should always be done last in an any% speedrun in order to skip the Triforce of Courage cutscene (see below).

Route Inside The Dungeon

From there you can either :

  1. Perform the clip through the floor, fall on top of the wall of B2 and proceed to activate a switch from above and dash to access the entrance of the Miniboss room. (See Clipping Through B1 Floor) OR

  2. Exit through the north door that just opened. Take the north door in the following room. Jump down to B2 in that new room. Take the small stairs leading to a treadmill, merge the wall at the end of it to cross the gap and make your way and hit the switch in the southeast corner that will reverse the treadmill in the southwest corner of the room. Throw a bomb on that treadmill to activate the switch in the corner and exit through the south door that will open. Dash in the southeast direction to reach the next room, and take the north door in that room. Merge the east wall north of Thief Girl's cell, walk right while in the wall and unmerge to press the ground switch next to her. Exit the cell the same way you entered it and dash west the pass through the door that just opened. Use a Bomb to break the cracked north wall, enter the hole and go west then dash side while inside the wall. Use the Wall Switch and the red/blue walls to get on top of the cells, dash north once you're up there and jump down to reach the entrance of the Miniboss room.

(Both methods are of similar length when performed correctly)

  • Miniboss: Red Eyegores (See Strategy)
  • Grab the Small Key in the chest and exit the room from where you came.
  • Go unlock the door of Thief Girl's cell, talk to her and tell her to follow you. Exit her cell to trigger the door closing cutscene. Go press both switched at the north of the room, grab Thief Girl again and exit through the east door that you opened.
  • Walk towards the north door to spawn the 4 Blue Zazaks, kill them and take the staircase down to B3.
  • Make your way until you reach the gap, merge the wall to cross it and press the ground switch. Grab Thief Girl, progress south a bit and tell her to wait when you reach the midway point of the next gap (gap will be on your left). Merge to get past the iron bars south of that point. Swim to access the area west, make your way back north and merge/unmerge to push the bridge down.
  • Grab Thief Girl and use her to press the switches you just passed, lowering the iron bars in the water. Swim south then east to access and pull the lever, draining the water. Go grab Thief Girl again, make your way to the Wall Switch and hit it with your sword. Get Link and Thief Girl on the lowered blue wall and hit the switch again. Place a bomb down and quickly walk to the southwest red wall before it rises up. Walk diagonally southeast and jump down near the staircase up to B2. Take the staircase. (See Delay The Spawn Of Enemies In The Master Ore Room)
  • Tell Thief Girl to wait on the switch, take the stairs in the southeast corner of the room and make your way to the second switch on the bridge above the room. Fall down, grab Thief Girl and quickly take the newly opened door, followed by the southwest one.
  • Take the west door.
  • Walk towards the north door to spawn the Blue Zazaks. Slash the one that's in the way and exit through the north door.
  • Take the north door.
  • Get on the first treadmill and shoot an arrow north as you get close to the wall. (The arrow will hit the north swill, reversing the next treadmill.) Spawn the Blue Zazaks, but simply walk past them and take the north staircase to reach B1.
  • Merge the west wall to cross the gap and go press the ground switch in the center of the room. Jump in the fan's wind to cross over to reach and press the other ground switch. Jump into the other fan's wind and make your way to the south door.
  • Take the south door.
  • Walk south to spawn the 2 Blue Zazaks, kill them and take the east door.
  • Go press both ground switches at the north of the room to activate the moving wall. Use the Tornado Rod to get on top of it, merge the north wall and walk left to reach and get the Big Key Chest. (See Faster Big Key) Go to and open the Boss Door.
  • BOSS: Stalblind (See Strategy)

Boss Strategy: Stalblind

The best way to defeat Stalblind quickly is to use the Hammer. Start by getting as many sword slashes in as you can on the first cycle of the first phase. He will then do his breath attack. Approach him, get hit by the attack and make use of the invicibility frames to smash him once with the Hammer followed by a sword slash. Repeat if necessary to reach the second phase.

The second and third phase are done the same way, by getting close to his body and using the Hammer. If done correctly, each phase takes 2 Hammer attacks to complete. Pay attention to the sound the Hammer makes when it hits Stalblind. If you hear the damage sound effect multiple times for one attack, you'll know you hit him correctly. If you only hear the sound effect once, then you didn't hit him correctly and will have to add extra attacks to complete the phase.

If he does his spin attack during the second or third phase, take damage and hit him while you are still invincible.

Miniboss Strategy: Red Eyegores

Charge a spin attack facing south and walk north a bit. Release the spin attack when the Eyegores start moving and you should hit all 5 of them. Turn around and slash away until they close their eye. Repeat the spin attack + slashes combo until they die. It is possible, but a bit hard, to kill them all on the 2nd cycle. Each Red Eyegore drops a red rupee, make sure you get all 5 of them.

Skip Merging in the B1 Western Room

By using the Bow diagonally, you can skip having to merge to get past the bars that rise. Saves a small amount of time if you already have the Bow equipped.

Thieves Hideout Merge Skip

Clipping Through B1 Floor

Discovered By Zandergoth and MasterBacon, Refined By Anwonu And RheaultWnage

By using the Gargoyle Statues and the switch to raise the bars in the western room of B1, it is possible to clip through the floor and land in the room beneath it, in B2. To do so, any of the 3 sets of bars can be used.

  1. Place the first statue so it overlaps the bars while those are underground.
  2. Place the second statue right next to the first one. (To its right if using leftmost or rightmost bars. To its left if using center bars.)
  3. Place a bomb near the switch that raises the bars
  4. Go grab and hold the second statue. (Grab its right side if using leftmost or rightmost bars. Grab its left side if using center bars.)

When the bomb explodes, the first statue will rise with the bars, slide on top of the second one and then fall on Link's head, who will be pushed down to the lower floor. It is possible to pull the second statue while the first one is on top of it, and it will follow, making it possible to clip in different places. Nothing useful has been found with that yet.

Simply falling down to that room has no practical use when you want to actually complete the dungeon because, unlike Link, Thief Girl can't pass through blocked doors when backtracking through the dungeon to reach the first room. This means that you still have to complete the Gargoyle Statues puzzle and bomb that one switch that opens a door in B2.

By using the rightmost set of bars to clip, it is possible to land on top of the wall in the room below. To do so, simply make sure Link is in the "northern half" of the statue's right side, so he slides south a bit when grabbing it.

Thieves Hideout Statue Clip

Once you're on the wall, the camera will keep going from B1 to B2. You can reach the north room by simply holding up on the stick until you get the transition. From there, dash left, let a bomb fall down to the switch, dash up and dash right. (When you get close to the right edge of the room, the camera will zoom back out and stop the dash for you, so you don't have to worry about dashing too far right and falling off.) Once you're in the northeast corner of the room and the camera is zoomed out, position Link facing top right, and just a bit under this red line:

Thieves Hideout Dash To Eyegores

Dash from there and you will reach the entrance to the miniboss room.

NOTE: This whole trick saves about 1 second overall, if at all. Remember that you need to solve the Gargoyle Statues puzzle before doing this trick, or else you will have to do it on the way back.

Delay The Spawn Of Enemies In The Master Ore Room

Discovered By Koffingrockz

It is possible to avoid the trigger that spawns the blue enemies near the Master Ore chest, giving you movement freedom to go activate the switches and dash to the chest without worrying about Thief Girl getting grabbed. Just walk diagonally without touching the south red wall, and be careful not to let Thief Girl fall on the north side.

Thieves Hideout Enemy Spawn Delay

If you went down to get the Master Ore, the enemies will spawn once you get back on the south red wall and hit the switch to raise it, but they won't be a threat by then. However, if you do not go down for the Master Ore and instead directly go to the staircase leading to B2, then it is possible to not spawn the Zazaks at all.

Faster Big Key

After activating the moving wall used to reach the Big Key Chest, instead of going up the stairs and merging into it, position Link under the rightmost end of its trajectory and use the Tornado Rod right away. If done correctly, Link will fall back down on the piece that links the moving wall to the north wall. From there, simply merge the north wall, walk left to reach and open the Big Key chest.

ALBW Thieves Hideout Faster Big Key

Big Key Skip / Boss Skip (Useless)

Discovered By AJC868

It is possible to get on top of the B1 walls, make your way to the Boss room and fall into the loading zone of the south door to exit the Dungeon.

  1. Clip through the floor and fall on the B2 walls using the Gargoyle Statues.
  2. Walk to a certain position. (See picture below, use the shadow of Link's right hand and foot to line up correctly.)
  3. Use the Tornado Rod multiple times to get all the way up to the top of the B1 walls.
  4. From there, navigate the walls to reach the Boss room, and slowly fall down into the loading zone of the south exit.

ALBW Thieves Hideout B1 Tornado Rod Setup

Sadly, doing so will not actually beat the dungeon. It also isn't possible to activate the Boss fight if Thief Girl isn't with you.

Miniboss Skip (Useless)

Discovered By RheaultWnage

Using the same steps as the Boss skip, but by Dash Sliding from a different place on the wall of the Gargoyle Statue in B1, it is possible to end up on top of the B2 walls in the room with Thief Girl's cell. From there:

  1. Dash Slide through the transition between this room and the Miniboss room in the northwest corner. End up on the wall of the Miniboss room.
  2. Walk up to the north part of the room, fall down near the torch.
  3. Light it with the Lamp or Fire Rod.

Lighting the torch is the trigger for the game to consider the room as beaten. The platform holding the Small Key chest will lower and the green portal will appear. If you try to exit the room through the south door, it will shut as you get close, but it will reopen right away, allowing you to leave.

Doing this is longer than actually doing the fight normally, so it is currently useless in a speedrun.

Results Of Doing Thieves' Hideout Last

Data Gathered By RheaultWnage And Roadagain

Normally, you are not supposed to be able to complete Thieves' Hideout as the last dungeon in Lorule, because rescuing Osfala enables you to rent the Sand Rod, which you would then use to gain access to and beat Desert Palace. But, it is actually possible to skip using the Sand Rod entirely, with the help of a Damage Boost technique and the Desert Palace Skip.

Due to the fact that beating Thieves' Hideout plays the Sage "cutscene" of Osfala giving you the Sand Rod, the regular cutscene for beating the final dungeon (i.e. the Triforce Of Courage stairs rising) will not happen at all, and you'll be able to simply take the usual warp in the center of the room and exit the Sage room faster than you would if you had to climb up to get the Triforce.

Even though you can't see them, the stairs are still present and usable. You can climb them up all the way to the top, but there is nothing there.

Now that it is possible to skip the boss of Desert Palace, it is worth it to skip the sand rod, which means Thieves' Hideout can be done last.

ALBW Triforce Cutscene Thieves Last

Last updated 08/23/2014 – RheaultWnage